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           Copyright © Ric Einstein 2008

 

 

 

Damned if You Do - Screwed if You Don't (15 August)

 

My good email mate Murray in New Zealand and I had recent email exchanges about a comment I made in my Wine Australia 2006 Overview in relation to the number of bottles of red, which were sealed under screwcaps, that I found  to have reductive characters. I won't go into the technical details of the exchange, but Murray was kind enough to put me contact with Alan Limmer of the Stonecroft Winery in NZ who knows a thing or three about reductive characters in wine. Alan was able to provide a simple explanation to a complex issue, but as I was to find out, if true, the result has far reaching implications for producers.

 

Regular readers will know that I hate what corks do to wine, and the current level of TCA and oxidised wine corks produce is unacceptable; and whilst I have an open mind about screwcaps, I am yet to be convinced they are a universal panacea, especially for red wine. Therefore anything, be it positive or negative, that provides more meaningful information about the use of  alternative closures and their effect on wine is important. That is why I started my correspondence with Alan. Here is what he said.

 

"The sulfide issue is very interesting. I wrote an article that covered the topic in full in last years annual tech issue of Aus/NZ Grapegrower/Winemaker but the issue of 'post bottling' sulfides is particularly interesting.

Firstly, we have to make the distinction between wines that have been bottled with obvious sulfide notes, and wines which have been bottled 'clean' ie no obvious sulfide notes.

If the wine has been bottled with obvious sulfide notes, then this really is due to lack of care by the winemaker. But there are many cases of wines being bottled clean, and developing sulfide notes after bottling - especially under screw cap. This is what the AWRI closure trials have consistently shown up. ROTE (s cap) closure show sulfide notes after several months, while those under the cork do not.

Why?

As I explained in my article, the sulfides exist in various forms in the wine. Some can be cleaned out with copper fining (the usual pre-bottling procedure), but others cannot. The ones that can be cleaned out are H2S and thiols (mercaptans). The ones that cannot be cleaned out are the more complex ones, and in particular, disulfides, and thioacetates.

By two different processes, these compounds can both degrade over time to produce thiols.

The thiols are particularly smelly - more so than the parent components. So, a non- smelly (clean) amount of the disulfide, or thioacetate can yield enough thiol to make the wine sulfide smelly. This difference is about 20-40 fold in terms of sensory effect - so it can be significant.

Why not under cork?

This process has gone on since winemaking began - it is an artefact of the fermentation process, and basically impossible to eliminate. So, all wines get bottled with some of these components. What happens to them in terms of thiol accumulation depends on how much oxygen ingress the wine is getting via the closure. Corks allow more than screwcap. The thiols (the smelly bits) are easily oxidised back to disulfides (non-smelly bits). So if the wine is getting enough oxygen the balance of smelly thiol to non-smelly disulfide is in the favour of the disulfides. So, the pool of thiol is small. If the oxygen ingress is cut back further, the balance shifts to more thiol, less disulfide. This is what you see under screwcap. In a completely anaerobic experiment, the AWRI sealed a sample of their trial in a glass ampoule. No oxygen ingress, compared to a slight amount under screwcap. The ampoule produced even more sulfide smell.


Hope this answers your question."

 

It certainly did, but unfortunately it posed another obvious one. Given that the gating factor to the amount of thiols is the amount of oxygen in the wine, what can the winemaker do to reduce/eliminate the problem. e.g. is there a simple test that can be carried out prior to bottling to see what is likely to happen when bottled under ROTE, or is it pot luck? How do wineries determine how much oxygen and head space is required at bottling time? Obviously the bottle size is predetermined and so is the quantity, so how do they try and minimise the problem. Alan responded with this comment.

 

"This is a common misconception -- how much oxygen should I give my wine at bottling to prevent this effect. I have seen screwcappers dosing with O2 at bottling, or not inert flushing at filling, or fiddling with headspace etc. The AWRI did some headspace trials with results that were predictable.

It is all about competing rates, post bottling.

Rates of thiol production, from the precursors; the kinetics of which are reasonably understood in the science literature ,and so are the rates of oxygen ingress required to to mitigate.

A couple of slides from a recent presentation I did may help to explain it.

 

 

 

 



I read in Tyson Stelzers latest book (which has some lousy chemistry which I took him to task over), that the wine must be in the right oxidative state pre bottling. This is nonsense. These things happen post bottling, and the determining factor for every given wine is the rate of O2 ingress thru the closure. Every AWRI trial has shown this effect under ROTE, and nil under cork.

As for how else to mitigate - not so simple , I wrote about a 5000 word follow up article in Aus magazine on this topic.

 

I don't know how deeply you want to go into this. (TORB's Comment: Stick with it folks, its gets a little technical here but it's not that hard to understand and worth the effort.)

 

The kinetics of the thiol production are governed by several factors - most of which are basically out of the winemakers hands.
 

They are;
T
hioacetate concentration. It is a first order (concentration dependant) relationship to thiol production, via hydrolysis. i.e. twice the amount of thioacetate = twice the rate of thiol production.

Further, the rate of hydrolysis is Ph dependant - higher Ph = faster rate of thiol production, for given amount of
thioacetate.

D
isulfide concentration, also first order relationship. Twice the disulfide = twice the rate of thiol prod.

We generally know we need an oxidant for oxidation, but we also need a reductant for the
disulfide reduction (to thiol). The literature tells us it is SO2. Again a first order relationship - according to the literature. So, double the free SO2 = double the rate of thiol accumulation via disulfide reduction.


So you can see there are many factors at play here in the final result, most of which the winemaker has little choice, or control over. So, take a given wine - say Penfolds Grange 2002. It will have a unique set of the above parameters. Let us assume, it has, high Ph, high
disulfide, high thioacetate, and high SO2. The rate of thiol production will be very high, and it will take a considerable rate of O2 ingress to mitigate this.


Now assume the same wine has low Ph, low
disulfide, low thioacetate and low SO2. It will require much less O2 ingress to mitigate the effect.


So, the effect is variable, and largely unpredictable from wine to wine. But what the chemistry literature (kinetics) does tell us is that generally, it will peak at about 18 months post bottling . How long it takes to become apparent is dependant on all the above factors, and more.
 

You can screen for the precursors; there is a commercial service for this in the US, but it is not exactly simple. As a result of my article on how we might otherwise possibly mitigate this effect, I have instigated some research work here in NZ on this topic (I chair the research program for the NZ industry). Traditionally the cork with its higher ingress rate has largely spared us from this event. As we move to lower ingress closures, the effect becomes more significant - which you may now be able to see."

So why is all this important? The answer is as simple as it is obvious. Not all wines are best sealed under screwcap and there is no easy way of telling if cork or screwcap will be the best seal for a particular wine.

 

Let the boffins continue with the research.

 

Feel free to submit your comments!

From: Sarah Walton

09/18/2006 18:17:42 Thanks for the article 'Damned if you do, Screwed if you don't" - It helps quite a bit. I tried the 2004 Rosabrook Chardonnay late last year, and loved it, and had been recommending it. Tried a bottle last night, and it has developed quite a woof, and it had me baffled, as I found the wine very clean upon first trial. I take it now, that the wine is "screwed", and we can expect no further change for the good? What happens chemically after the process 'peaks' at about 18 months?

From: TORB

09/18/2006 18:20:38 To ensure I got the right answer, I asked Alan Limmer who emailed back this response. "The kinetics of what happens after the peaking of the sulfide bite (I assume this is the woof), are determined by the oxygen ingress rate and SO2. As the SO2 declines over time, so the rate of disulfide reduction will too. This in turn, means the rate of thiol production will also decline. But the oxygen ingress rate remains constant. Eventually, the rate of thiol production will decrease to match that of the oxygen ingress, and slowly the sulfide notes will dissipate. Long aged wines under screw cap do not usually show this sulfide note. This is why understanding the SO2 mechanism as a causal factor is so important. It explains why, under cork, if we do see any of these notes, they are more transient, that's because the SO2 drops quicker under cork, and the O2 ingress is an order of magnitude or so more than screw cap. So, the character dissipates so much quicker, if it ever appears. The downside is the wine under cork will show oxidative notes earlier.

From: Adair Durie

09/18/2006 18:21:27 The reductive characters in screw-capped wines – I better now go put all my faith in DIAM now! Seriously though, I wonder if aerating/decanting/letting sit a reductive screw-capped wine would do the trick for most cases… although, after 4 or 5 days of being opened, there was no change in the sulphur fault of a screw-capped 2004 Austin’s of Barrabool Riesling I had at home recently, which was finally poured on my BBQ as a cleaning agent.

From: TORB

09/18/2006 18:22:16 Although I thought I knew the answer to this one, once again I asked Alan for his thoughts. "Decanting stinky wine is interesting. In my experience this character is still in the wine the next day, but over a few days does dissipate. So, I doubt decanting is going to do much. Decanting is likely to remove some H2S - it is the most volatile sulfide in wine. But H2S is not formed by this mechanism. If there is any H2S in the wine, it was left there at bottling.

What does remove this character is a coin in the glass. Traditionally copper, but in fact these sulfides react strongly with any metals. So, to see the difference, you can try a coin in the wine for five minutes or so, and compare the two. The one with the coin should have a cleaner fresher palate. This is a slightly imprecise method to approach the problem, but it does work. I have seen plenty of wine makers do it."


From: Hal Seow

09/18/2006 18:23:20 I initially thought that this issue was one of those "Spagetti grows on trees", an April Fools -"come in spinner"- joke, but wow it hits like a sledgehammer. Here I am fully besotted with buying all my wines with Stelvin seals to avoid the experienced cork adversities and now along comes this! What to do.??

Alan Limmer seems to have closed any door of escape in when he says even wines bottled clean of sulphides (supposedly), all wines will contain disulphides and thioacetates which can/will degrade over a relatively short period of time i.e. months to produce particularly smelly sulphides aka THIOLS, and supports this with evidence from AWRI closure trials and anaerobic experiments. This raises many queries; some of these are-:

Firstly, are all type of wines so affected ? i.e. white, red ,sparkling, fortified or does the quantity of alcohol, co2gas, and other preservatives mitigate. Many bottles of port for instance sealed with wax do not display obnoxious sulphide notes nor am I aware that sparkling wine (particularly sparkling burgundy type sealed with crown seals initially) have any sulphide notes. Is there a magic formulae? Is it coincidental that there have been many wines produced and sealed under screw caps that show no detraction from developed Thiols? Your tasting notes in the last newsletter on O'Leary Walker"s 2002 Reserve Shiraz (under stelvin) did not appear to suffer any reductive/sulphide characters as you rated it Excellent ,so is it hit and miss. Will you be more guarded in making recommendations in the future re wines under stelvin than usual or will you be more searching for traces of sulphides in wines than otherwise. Will these comments by Alan Limmer ignite the cork lobby into escalated banter. And who will pick up the tab when a consumer complains that a particular wine is unacceptable because of it's Thiols pong? The wine producer or the Screw Cap maker for producing an item that under Mercantile law is not fit for the purpose.???"

I should imagine that many comments will be provoked by this matter and you will have some reading to digest so could you simply advise how I can avoid
avoid the adversities of Thiols pong in my future wine purchases.


From: TORB

09/18/2006 18:24:06 Unfortunately all wine is potentially subject to the problem. Unfortunately just like cork taint, it is a crap shoot. The AWRI trials showed the problem with white wine initially. In terms of sparkling wine (especially red); when they are under crown seal, most of the good stuff is on lees for some time. As the reductive stink normally peaks around 18 months after bottling, it is quite probable the smell is already dissipating but the time the wine is disgorged, and then sealed with a cork. The disgorging process might also reduce the stink and introduce a tiny amount of oxygen into the wine, which will overtime, eliminates the smell.

As far as port sealed in wax is concerned, as I understand it, the wax may slow the rate of oxygen flow down, but it does not completely eliminate it, and in most cases these wines are drunk many years after they have been bottled, which means any stink has been dissipated by the oxygen.

I doubt the cork lobby will jump on this news; their spin doctors have proved to be quite adept at coming up with stories that don’t let facts inhibit their message. As far as who will pick up the cost for wine that has been returned because it is undrinkable, the winery will have to pick up the cost, not the screwcap manufacturer, because the balance of components of the wine have combined with the lack of oxygen to cause the fault. Of course, it is worth while noting the reductive characters are unlike he’d be found in white wine that has just been bottled, or at the other extreme, red wine that has been sealed for many years.

As to how you can avoid buying wines are that likely to suffer this problem, there is no way of knowing, however wines with high Ph, high disulfide, high thioacetate, and high SO2 are much more susceptible to the problem.

There is one bit of good news on the horizon. The science of screwcaps, in reality, is in its infancy and new technical advances are being made all the time. It won’t be long before producers will be able to order screwcaps that will allow differing rates of oxygen transmission into the wine.


From: Wayne Ahrens

09/18/2006 18:25:14 I thought about commenting on your first comment, didn't get there but now am compelled. I think the single biggest contributing factor to this problem is the preparation for bottling phase. We are blessed with a completely professional contract bottling business close by so I am spared the heart burn of bottling ourselves. Having said that the first thing Ray asks when I turn up with my wine is, What do you want?

He will as a matter of course sparge most wines with nitrogen to get the dissolved oxygen down to an acceptable level.

My argument is that having spent the past year getting my wines stable, why would I fundamentally change one parameter immediately before bottling.

I am always interested to look at the trials that say " the same wine was bottled under cork and Stelvin", I think wines should be prepared differently depending the closure that will be utilised. Alan certainly knows far more about this subject than me. I just feel that some of the problem is caused by cleaning the wines up too much pre-bottling because that is what people are accustomed to doing for corks.

We do maintain a minimal SO2 regime during cellaring to minimise the total sulphur load on the wine. What I am saying here is we eliminate SO2 additions prior to the end of malolactic ferment as these additions will contribute eventually to the total SO2 when they don't help with the eventual free. We add on average about 60 ppm of total SO2, 3 x 20 ppm adds. I am talking exclusively of red wines in this context.

Up until now all of our wines have been bottled racked straight from the barrel with no adverse affects, touchwood. I also read with interest your bit about winemakers passing off as "perfectly sound" wines with obvious Brett.




 

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